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		<title>By: Swimming Speed &#8211; 4 Focal Points to Practice &#124; The Silky Swimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swimming Speed &#8211; 4 Focal Points to Practice &#124; The Silky Swimmer</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] a two beat kick you want to have the kick support the rotation of the body more than having it actually [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Tusa</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/497/comment-page-1#comment-2924</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Tusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 22:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tip that worked for me was to use &quot;swim on your side&quot; drills but with a focus on the kick.  I use the 8 kick RRL, 8 kick LLR with a focus on a vertical side (facing a wall), head/chest down, extended arm by my ear and a smooth two way kick with focus on foot position and flicking to feel the water slide off the top of the foot when extending. I do 3x50 with 15 sec rest then swim a 50 free focusing on the same kick but with my hips and feet sliding through the &quot;hole&quot; my head and shoulders create .  Then I do 8 kick RLR, 8 kick LRL keeping the same smooth flick kick and focus on timing the kick, reach, and my roll to the other side again 3x50 followed by a 50 to incorporate the feeling into a swim.  This helped me develop a smoother kick and it helped be develop a sense of having my body roll timed to my recovery to reach where my recovery to reach shoulder roll helps keep my hips up more so my kick just stays inside my streamline without any focus or effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tip that worked for me was to use &#8220;swim on your side&#8221; drills but with a focus on the kick.  I use the 8 kick RRL, 8 kick LLR with a focus on a vertical side (facing a wall), head/chest down, extended arm by my ear and a smooth two way kick with focus on foot position and flicking to feel the water slide off the top of the foot when extending. I do 3&#215;50 with 15 sec rest then swim a 50 free focusing on the same kick but with my hips and feet sliding through the &#8220;hole&#8221; my head and shoulders create .  Then I do 8 kick RLR, 8 kick LRL keeping the same smooth flick kick and focus on timing the kick, reach, and my roll to the other side again 3&#215;50 followed by a 50 to incorporate the feeling into a swim.  This helped me develop a smoother kick and it helped be develop a sense of having my body roll timed to my recovery to reach where my recovery to reach shoulder roll helps keep my hips up more so my kick just stays inside my streamline without any focus or effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Laughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Laughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 23:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herb. You are a true exemplar of a tireless Kaizen Spirit in your TI Practice. Well done and thanks for sharing.</description>
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		<title>By: Herb Janecek</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/497/comment-page-1#comment-2720</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb Janecek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 02:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry, re your response to Jason (5/22/10) with your 2004&quot;focus on my kick&quot;..AND seven organized efforts. I&#039;ve been enjoying doing all seven as I glide with each stroke, especially using #3-&quot;Synchronize leg beats with hand-spear&quot; ;#4 &quot;..shifting the work from quads to core&quot; (rotation) and #5 &quot;...using the TOE-FLICK rather than leg drive.&quot; The last my current favorite sign revealing &quot;relaxed&quot; or &quot;NOT relaxed&quot;. If the latter, time for &quot;vertical kicking&quot;(which actually moves me down the pool..orif I choose, in a circle.

But..it&#039;s taking alot of years to research &amp; get to TOE-FLICKING.. It involved using TWO TOOLS from you and Dr Marty Hull...and the training technique of &quot;vertical kicking&quot;.The latter always included in my intervals w/breathing exercise while lapping w/freestyle &amp; backstroke during my USMS GoThe Distance 600 yds twice weekly. My 78 yo body is loving it. No big competitor, 
but enjoy the pace of 100yds @ 5:00 or 600 yds @ 30 minutes. 

Before meeting your TI, I picked up Hull&#039;s videos &amp; equipment including  the &quot;ROM&quot; rangeof-motion-wall mounted stretch cord; Zoomer fins and &quot;THE RACK&quot;, a unique foot bones stretcher (Currently on loan to a distance runner,soon to be swimmer,because of knee damage!!.)
The Zoomer was just stiff, dead weight to me. BUT..the $130 Force Fins ADJUSTABLE &quot;SLIM FINS&quot;--what super flexibility!!--you recommended &amp; sold me 5 yrs or so ago, FINALLY helped me co-ordinate my leg and arm work. (Stored in closet now for a future &quot;interval exercise.&quot;.

Rather simultaneously, I bought THE RACK to get my 90 degree foot angle looking somewhat like the ballerina-straight feet of Phelps &amp; company, to 1) cut drag &amp; 2) give the flexible TOE-FLICK. The set up: 1)Plastic board fits beneath with pointed end fits below door. 2) Two adjustable straps allow working on lower or upper foot bones. 3) With foot strapped,one gradually lay backward--yes, &quot;ouch&quot;--to stretch the bone joints. ( I was about 69 yo starting the workout daily or so for year or two. Younger bones would go for it!) A gauge is given to measure progress. My daily excercise includes GENTLE flexing these foot joints in &amp; out of water. When I feel ANY pull/strain in my toes swimming. I stop and wiggle/wave my toes to get back to your TOE-FLICKING.
NOW! I&#039;ve also used YMCA locker carpet floor to maintain the foot ROM, by kneeing back on my feet. And exercise that could be in lieu of THE RACk. ( Itgets gymn buddies to say &quot;ouch&quot; when they see me. BUT , hey ROM is the name of the game, tight TerrY?

BTW:Just rcvd the TAI CHI dvd. Looking forward to it bringing me more training in relaxed, centered, smooth swimming.

Herb Janecek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry, re your response to Jason (5/22/10) with your 2004&#8243;focus on my kick&#8221;..AND seven organized efforts. I&#8217;ve been enjoying doing all seven as I glide with each stroke, especially using #3-&#8221;Synchronize leg beats with hand-spear&#8221; ;#4 &#8220;..shifting the work from quads to core&#8221; (rotation) and #5 &#8220;&#8230;using the TOE-FLICK rather than leg drive.&#8221; The last my current favorite sign revealing &#8220;relaxed&#8221; or &#8220;NOT relaxed&#8221;. If the latter, time for &#8220;vertical kicking&#8221;(which actually moves me down the pool..orif I choose, in a circle.</p>
<p>But..it&#8217;s taking alot of years to research &amp; get to TOE-FLICKING.. It involved using TWO TOOLS from you and Dr Marty Hull&#8230;and the training technique of &#8220;vertical kicking&#8221;.The latter always included in my intervals w/breathing exercise while lapping w/freestyle &amp; backstroke during my USMS GoThe Distance 600 yds twice weekly. My 78 yo body is loving it. No big competitor,<br />
but enjoy the pace of 100yds @ 5:00 or 600 yds @ 30 minutes. </p>
<p>Before meeting your TI, I picked up Hull&#8217;s videos &amp; equipment including  the &#8220;ROM&#8221; rangeof-motion-wall mounted stretch cord; Zoomer fins and &#8220;THE RACK&#8221;, a unique foot bones stretcher (Currently on loan to a distance runner,soon to be swimmer,because of knee damage!!.)<br />
The Zoomer was just stiff, dead weight to me. BUT..the $130 Force Fins ADJUSTABLE &#8220;SLIM FINS&#8221;&#8211;what super flexibility!!&#8211;you recommended &amp; sold me 5 yrs or so ago, FINALLY helped me co-ordinate my leg and arm work. (Stored in closet now for a future &#8220;interval exercise.&#8221;.</p>
<p>Rather simultaneously, I bought THE RACK to get my 90 degree foot angle looking somewhat like the ballerina-straight feet of Phelps &amp; company, to 1) cut drag &amp; 2) give the flexible TOE-FLICK. The set up: 1)Plastic board fits beneath with pointed end fits below door. 2) Two adjustable straps allow working on lower or upper foot bones. 3) With foot strapped,one gradually lay backward&#8211;yes, &#8220;ouch&#8221;&#8211;to stretch the bone joints. ( I was about 69 yo starting the workout daily or so for year or two. Younger bones would go for it!) A gauge is given to measure progress. My daily excercise includes GENTLE flexing these foot joints in &amp; out of water. When I feel ANY pull/strain in my toes swimming. I stop and wiggle/wave my toes to get back to your TOE-FLICKING.<br />
NOW! I&#8217;ve also used YMCA locker carpet floor to maintain the foot ROM, by kneeing back on my feet. And exercise that could be in lieu of THE RACk. ( Itgets gymn buddies to say &#8220;ouch&#8221; when they see me. BUT , hey ROM is the name of the game, tight TerrY?</p>
<p>BTW:Just rcvd the TAI CHI dvd. Looking forward to it bringing me more training in relaxed, centered, smooth swimming.</p>
<p>Herb Janecek</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sloper</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/497/comment-page-1#comment-2686</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Sloper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have started working on my legs after several years on arms and core. I found practicing kicking on back was helpful. Getting out of the pool and jogging around it once helped make me remember my legs. The &quot;standing exercise&quot; is useful, will try the buoys because otherwise I sink after a very short while.

In breaststroke ankle flexion while gliding propels one forward. Is this what Terry means by the flick of the foot.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have started working on my legs after several years on arms and core. I found practicing kicking on back was helpful. Getting out of the pool and jogging around it once helped make me remember my legs. The &#8220;standing exercise&#8221; is useful, will try the buoys because otherwise I sink after a very short while.</p>
<p>In breaststroke ankle flexion while gliding propels one forward. Is this what Terry means by the flick of the foot.?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Laughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/497/comment-page-1#comment-1555</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Laughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 16:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morten, For sure there are TI enthusiasts scattered around Scandinavia.  I can think of two ways to locate some who may be in your area
1) Post a query on the Find a TI Buddy on the TI Forum.
2) If management allows, post a notice on the bulletin board at the pool(s) where you swim, asking others who practice TI - or would like to - to contact you.

You could also use social networking sites - including posting something on the wall of the TI Facebook page, and perhaps on any such networks (is there a Craigslist in Norway) where you are.
Good luck,
Terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morten, For sure there are TI enthusiasts scattered around Scandinavia.  I can think of two ways to locate some who may be in your area<br />
1) Post a query on the Find a TI Buddy on the TI Forum.<br />
2) If management allows, post a notice on the bulletin board at the pool(s) where you swim, asking others who practice TI &#8211; or would like to &#8211; to contact you.</p>
<p>You could also use social networking sites &#8211; including posting something on the wall of the TI Facebook page, and perhaps on any such networks (is there a Craigslist in Norway) where you are.<br />
Good luck,<br />
Terry</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Laughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/497/comment-page-1#comment-1554</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Laughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 16:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great suggestion, Chris. Thanks for sharing it. Why don&#039;t you post it on the Forum, on the same thread from which my blog was drawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great suggestion, Chris. Thanks for sharing it. Why don&#8217;t you post it on the Forum, on the same thread from which my blog was drawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Laughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Laughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 16:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan Some recommend that, but I&#039;ve gotten great results by doing something similar, without the cords. I just swim short distances - 25 yds or less - focused on keeping my ankles as close together as I can. What this forces me to learn is how to control instability in my upper torso - in similar ways to how this blog advocates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan Some recommend that, but I&#8217;ve gotten great results by doing something similar, without the cords. I just swim short distances &#8211; 25 yds or less &#8211; focused on keeping my ankles as close together as I can. What this forces me to learn is how to control instability in my upper torso &#8211; in similar ways to how this blog advocates.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/497/comment-page-1#comment-1552</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 13:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you recommend stretch cords that keep ankles together to eliminate scissor kick?</description>
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		<title>By: chris baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 09:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jason-Kim Bade (terrific TI coach from Rochester, ny) gave me an easy drill to help eliminate my scissor kick.  With a small buoy under each arm for floatation, &quot;stand&quot; in deep water.  While in this vertical position, and with legs straight, bring one leg slightly forward, the other one back.  Now simply bring them together in a quick move.  It&#039;s magic.  Now do it the other way.  You should find your self gently rotating.  This is essentially the 2bk move.  Of course, the next step is to translate that into your full stroke, but the feel is finally there, and the rest really begins to make sense.  No more scissor kick!  Thanks to both Terry and Kim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jason-Kim Bade (terrific TI coach from Rochester, ny) gave me an easy drill to help eliminate my scissor kick.  With a small buoy under each arm for floatation, &#8220;stand&#8221; in deep water.  While in this vertical position, and with legs straight, bring one leg slightly forward, the other one back.  Now simply bring them together in a quick move.  It&#8217;s magic.  Now do it the other way.  You should find your self gently rotating.  This is essentially the 2bk move.  Of course, the next step is to translate that into your full stroke, but the feel is finally there, and the rest really begins to make sense.  No more scissor kick!  Thanks to both Terry and Kim.</p>
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