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		<title>By: swim lesson</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/567/comment-page-1#comment-1799</link>
		<dc:creator>swim lesson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMAZING! Such a wonderful perspective on the sport! I have never seen this approach before to soccer nor swimming, however you have a great point. With the comparison to the Dutch and there way of training it is very clear the teaching methodology we use here needs to change. I am definitely going to spread the word. Thank you for this enlightening information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMAZING! Such a wonderful perspective on the sport! I have never seen this approach before to soccer nor swimming, however you have a great point. With the comparison to the Dutch and there way of training it is very clear the teaching methodology we use here needs to change. I am definitely going to spread the word. Thank you for this enlightening information.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry--Thanks again for another fascinating post.  Tim Galway did have an amazing influence on sports in general.  You&#039;re right about rowing being a good match for my physiology.  It&#039;s a range of motion and strength that I have available  And I always forget just how important balance is in both swimming and rowing when I&#039;ve been away from them for a bit and then am quickly reminded when I get back in/on the water.  I think what I like about them too is that I can do them when when I can.  With tennis, you need a partner; and tennis is a game of levels, so you really have to find someone within a range of your level.  I suppose you could say that for swimming and rowing, the water is always at the same level  (sorry!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry&#8211;Thanks again for another fascinating post.  Tim Galway did have an amazing influence on sports in general.  You&#8217;re right about rowing being a good match for my physiology.  It&#8217;s a range of motion and strength that I have available  And I always forget just how important balance is in both swimming and rowing when I&#8217;ve been away from them for a bit and then am quickly reminded when I get back in/on the water.  I think what I like about them too is that I can do them when when I can.  With tennis, you need a partner; and tennis is a game of levels, so you really have to find someone within a range of your level.  I suppose you could say that for swimming and rowing, the water is always at the same level  (sorry!).</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Laughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/567/comment-page-1#comment-1744</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Laughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - I&#039;ve done some sweep rowing and sculling, both of which I first experienced in my 50s. Without knowing too much about your neuromuscular issues, I&#039;d say you&#039;ve chosen well with rowing, because the key coordination is so much with larger muscle groups. 

My three favorite physical activities are sculling, skate-skiing, and swimming. What all have in common, is that they&#039;re rhythmic, aerobic, and place a really exacting emphasis on balance. I find this provides the perfect combination for achieving flow states, and for ecstatic moments when you&#039;ve been struggling with some aspect of balance or coordination and have a breakthrough. I hope to get a single shell when I have more free time to use it. I find it difficult to get excited about activities that fall short of that threshold.

Also, you&#039;ll be interested to know that I read &quot;The Inner Game of Tennis&quot; within a month or two of beginning my coaching journey in the fall of 72. Though my reason for reading it was because I&#039;d decided to dabble in tennis as a potential replacement for the exercise I&#039;d gotten by swim training for the previous 5 years, until my &#039;retirement&#039; from competitive swimming in Aug 72, I immediately recognized that the concepts he expressed would be exceptionally valuable to my swim coaching. My interest in playing tennis only lasted a few weeks. My embrace of &lt;em&gt;Inner Game ideas&lt;/em&gt; has continued for nearly 4 decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom &#8211; I&#8217;ve done some sweep rowing and sculling, both of which I first experienced in my 50s. Without knowing too much about your neuromuscular issues, I&#8217;d say you&#8217;ve chosen well with rowing, because the key coordination is so much with larger muscle groups. </p>
<p>My three favorite physical activities are sculling, skate-skiing, and swimming. What all have in common, is that they&#8217;re rhythmic, aerobic, and place a really exacting emphasis on balance. I find this provides the perfect combination for achieving flow states, and for ecstatic moments when you&#8217;ve been struggling with some aspect of balance or coordination and have a breakthrough. I hope to get a single shell when I have more free time to use it. I find it difficult to get excited about activities that fall short of that threshold.</p>
<p>Also, you&#8217;ll be interested to know that I read &#8220;The Inner Game of Tennis&#8221; within a month or two of beginning my coaching journey in the fall of 72. Though my reason for reading it was because I&#8217;d decided to dabble in tennis as a potential replacement for the exercise I&#8217;d gotten by swim training for the previous 5 years, until my &#8216;retirement&#8217; from competitive swimming in Aug 72, I immediately recognized that the concepts he expressed would be exceptionally valuable to my swim coaching. My interest in playing tennis only lasted a few weeks. My embrace of <em>Inner Game ideas</em> has continued for nearly 4 decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/567/comment-page-1#comment-1726</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry--Thanks for your kind post.  I recall, ten years ago, when I bought my first TI cassettes that it was a total paradigm shift for me in swimming.  I had the same experience a few decades earlier in tennis when I bought Tim Galway&#039;s book, &quot;The Inner Game of Tennis.&quot;  In both sports, I&#039;d considered myself hopeless until TI and Inner Game, when I was able to focus on the concepts I needed, concepts that I just wasn&#039;t getting from the coaching/teaching commonly available in the day.  As a supplement, I&#039;ve also done some Tai Chi and very basic martial arts.  When I was very young, I contracted a virus, which, while it wasn&#039;t polio (as far as anyone knows), did damage my neuromuscular system.  So, I&#039;ve spent a lot of time finding ways to go around that problem, mainly because I don&#039;t have a lot of innate coordination or strength.  In rowing--probably the only sport where I can claim some kind of innate ability (it&#039;s actually a very limited, specialized movement)--I can cruise along briskly using proper timing and balance, even with a rather weak upper body.  So thanks for the incredible work that you&#039;ve done.  Also, just as a side observation, when you move something into a different conceptual space, I think some people get a little disoriented at first.  Maybe that&#039;s what &quot;Chuck&quot; was experiencing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry&#8211;Thanks for your kind post.  I recall, ten years ago, when I bought my first TI cassettes that it was a total paradigm shift for me in swimming.  I had the same experience a few decades earlier in tennis when I bought Tim Galway&#8217;s book, &#8220;The Inner Game of Tennis.&#8221;  In both sports, I&#8217;d considered myself hopeless until TI and Inner Game, when I was able to focus on the concepts I needed, concepts that I just wasn&#8217;t getting from the coaching/teaching commonly available in the day.  As a supplement, I&#8217;ve also done some Tai Chi and very basic martial arts.  When I was very young, I contracted a virus, which, while it wasn&#8217;t polio (as far as anyone knows), did damage my neuromuscular system.  So, I&#8217;ve spent a lot of time finding ways to go around that problem, mainly because I don&#8217;t have a lot of innate coordination or strength.  In rowing&#8211;probably the only sport where I can claim some kind of innate ability (it&#8217;s actually a very limited, specialized movement)&#8211;I can cruise along briskly using proper timing and balance, even with a rather weak upper body.  So thanks for the incredible work that you&#8217;ve done.  Also, just as a side observation, when you move something into a different conceptual space, I think some people get a little disoriented at first.  Maybe that&#8217;s what &#8220;Chuck&#8221; was experiencing.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Laughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/567/comment-page-1#comment-1718</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Laughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck I don&#039;t think of these question as innocuous at all. I spent nearly 20 years coaching age group club and college swim teams prior to founding Total Immersion. And since starting TI I&#039;ve also spent nearly 20 years swimming with various Masters teams -- and continued to observe youth swim teams on many occasions.  My cumulative experience observing or participating in practices conducted by various swim coaches must now be into the thousands of hours. To my great dismay I&#039;ve observed coaching practices similar to those employed by the Dutch soccer coaches, only a minuscule percentage of that total. The number of &quot;wasted human potential hours&quot; I&#039;ve observed is staggering. 

I believe it&#039;s important to ask these questions - rhetorical though they may be. And that&#039;s why I decided to publish this. If your own experience--participating or observing--has been different, please let us know. Which questions in particular do you feel are unreflective of the prevailing culture of competitive swim coaching?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck I don&#8217;t think of these question as innocuous at all. I spent nearly 20 years coaching age group club and college swim teams prior to founding Total Immersion. And since starting TI I&#8217;ve also spent nearly 20 years swimming with various Masters teams &#8212; and continued to observe youth swim teams on many occasions.  My cumulative experience observing or participating in practices conducted by various swim coaches must now be into the thousands of hours. To my great dismay I&#8217;ve observed coaching practices similar to those employed by the Dutch soccer coaches, only a minuscule percentage of that total. The number of &#8220;wasted human potential hours&#8221; I&#8217;ve observed is staggering. </p>
<p>I believe it&#8217;s important to ask these questions &#8211; rhetorical though they may be. And that&#8217;s why I decided to publish this. If your own experience&#8211;participating or observing&#8211;has been different, please let us know. Which questions in particular do you feel are unreflective of the prevailing culture of competitive swim coaching?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Laughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/567/comment-page-1#comment-1716</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Laughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom  These are great observations - and the Latin reference on the root meaning of the word passion is poetic. I&#039;ve long thought there are lessons to be learned from crew practice. Racing shells are of course far more hydrodynamic than the human body. And yet crew teams, in their practice, seem to give far more attention to details such as stroke synchronization, than do swim teams. Ironic, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom  These are great observations &#8211; and the Latin reference on the root meaning of the word passion is poetic. I&#8217;ve long thought there are lessons to be learned from crew practice. Racing shells are of course far more hydrodynamic than the human body. And yet crew teams, in their practice, seem to give far more attention to details such as stroke synchronization, than do swim teams. Ironic, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/567/comment-page-1#comment-1712</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Along these lines, I recall watching rowing at the Sydney Olympics some years ago.  If memory serves, the American team had practiced long hours on erg machines, those indoor, dry land, rowing machines that crew team members use when they aren&#039;t out in a boat.  

The U.S. crew teams did not do terribly well that year.  If you looked at the bow of the U.S. v. the more successful German boat, you could see that the latter was much smoother.  By comparison, the bow of the U.S. boat (many boats have a little ball on the end that help you observe this) was going up and down more.  Now, it just makes sense that if a percentage of your energy is making the boat go vertically instead of forward horizontally, you&#039;re going to be at a disadvantage to a boat whose energy is more directed toward the finish line.  

My guess is that the German crew, through their training, had a greater sensitivity to &quot;boatness,&quot; how a boat behaves in the water and how to become one with water and boat.  Brute strength from practice on land is one thing, however if you misapply that energy, you will lose your advantage in the water.

And so it is with TI swimming that we learn to be more in tune with the water, and  in the case of soccer, more in tune with movement.  

It&#039;s interesting that the word passion, used in the article to describe American teams, comes from the latin word &quot;pati,&quot;  which means to feel or to suffer.  Maybe if we had more feeling and less suffering in our passion for sports, we&#039;d do better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along these lines, I recall watching rowing at the Sydney Olympics some years ago.  If memory serves, the American team had practiced long hours on erg machines, those indoor, dry land, rowing machines that crew team members use when they aren&#8217;t out in a boat.  </p>
<p>The U.S. crew teams did not do terribly well that year.  If you looked at the bow of the U.S. v. the more successful German boat, you could see that the latter was much smoother.  By comparison, the bow of the U.S. boat (many boats have a little ball on the end that help you observe this) was going up and down more.  Now, it just makes sense that if a percentage of your energy is making the boat go vertically instead of forward horizontally, you&#8217;re going to be at a disadvantage to a boat whose energy is more directed toward the finish line.  </p>
<p>My guess is that the German crew, through their training, had a greater sensitivity to &#8220;boatness,&#8221; how a boat behaves in the water and how to become one with water and boat.  Brute strength from practice on land is one thing, however if you misapply that energy, you will lose your advantage in the water.</p>
<p>And so it is with TI swimming that we learn to be more in tune with the water, and  in the case of soccer, more in tune with movement.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that the word passion, used in the article to describe American teams, comes from the latin word &#8220;pati,&#8221;  which means to feel or to suffer.  Maybe if we had more feeling and less suffering in our passion for sports, we&#8217;d do better.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck U Farley</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwellblog.com/archives/567/comment-page-1#comment-1707</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck U Farley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 02:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to think that this article could be taken with a grain of salt, like all things in life, but alas, Terry Laughlin, you seem to poke inocuous questions at something that cannot be answered, nor is able to answer. So why publish something like this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to think that this article could be taken with a grain of salt, like all things in life, but alas, Terry Laughlin, you seem to poke inocuous questions at something that cannot be answered, nor is able to answer. So why publish something like this?</p>
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